• lemmy689@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 months ago

    Gotta quit anthropomorphising machines. It takes free will to be a psychopath, all else is just imitating.

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        2 months ago

        Prove it.

        Or not. Once you invoke ‘there is no free will’ then you literally have stated that everything is determanistic meaning everything that will happen Has happened.

        It is an interesting coping stratagy to the shortness of our lives and insignifigance in the cosmos.

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            2 months ago

            How about: there’s no difference between actually free will and an infinite universe of infinite variables affecting your programming, resulting in a belief that you have free will. Heck, a couple million variables is more than plenty to confuddle these primate brains.

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              2 months ago

              Ok, but then you run into why does billions of vairables create free will in a human but not a computer? Does it create free will in a pig? A slug? A bacterium?

              • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                2 months ago

                Because billions is an absurd understatement, and computer have constrained problem spaces far less complex than even the most controlled life of a lab rat.

                And who the hell argues the animals don’t have free will? They don’t have full sapience, but they absolutely have will.

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                  2 months ago

                  So where does it end? Slugs, mites, krill, bacteria, viruses? How do you draw a line that says free will this side of the line, just mechanics and random chance this side of the line?

                  I just dont find it a particularly useful concept.

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          2 months ago

          Prove it.

          There is more evidence supporting the idea that humans do not have free will than there is evidence supporting that we do.

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              2 months ago

              Yeah, no.

              You can go ahead and produce the “proof” you have that humans have free will because I am not wasting my time being your search engine on something that has been heavily studied. Especially when I know nothing I produce will be understood by you simply based on the fact that you are demanding “proof” free will does not exist when there is no “proof” that it does in the first place.

              I tend not to waste my time sourcing Scientific material for unscientific minds.

              • KeenFlame@feddit.nu
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                2 months ago

                Hahaha yeah the philosophy of free will is solved and you can just Google it

                That’s not a mature argument

                • Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                  2 months ago

                  Hahaha yeah the philosophy of free will is solved and you can just Google it

                  Show me where I said that.

                  That’s not a mature argument

                  Learn what an argument is because I haven’t made one.