The point I was making here is you start sabotaging & can end up harming people that may have been allies. As they say, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions.
Second, the more you start demanding people do what you want else you’ll sabotage, attack them, etc… Your ideas really aren’t that much different than those of fascists either.
The point I was making here is you start sabotaging & can end up harming people that may have been allies
How? The call to sabotage was against fascist programs, like surveillance, illegal arrests, etc. How would sabotaging those hurt people who could have been allies?
Second, the more you start demanding people do what you want else you’ll sabotage, attack them, etc
That is nowhere near what is happening here. We have a system of laws that is being broken. Nobody was calling for sabotage when those laws were followed. But people who use less aggressive methods to combat fascism, i.e. writing op-eds, speaking publicly against administration policies, leading protests, have started facing punishments. They are preventing the normal exercise of civilian power, so we have to escalate to sabotage or similar actions. That doesn’t make us like fascists because we are not the ones defying and breaking existing social norms and laws. This is a ridiculous argument.
The suggestion of sabbatoge was against large corporations that employ tens of thousands of people if not more. You can make arguments that good people should never accept jobs at these large companies that end up working against our interests, but sabbatoging a company’s ability to function will almost certainly end impacting a lot of employees as well, which I’d guess many of them aren’t even that different than us & in some cases even less privileged. You do you. If you think that your resistance is pure & that if given the ring of power that you or your group will throw it into the lake of fire, then commit to that. I personally have seen too many instances where the resistance, especially if coming from Democrats, is just another form of fascism.
Fascists don’t need you to justify their fascism.
I tend to agree, but not entirely.
The point I was making here is you start sabotaging & can end up harming people that may have been allies. As they say, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions.
Second, the more you start demanding people do what you want else you’ll sabotage, attack them, etc… Your ideas really aren’t that much different than those of fascists either.
How? The call to sabotage was against fascist programs, like surveillance, illegal arrests, etc. How would sabotaging those hurt people who could have been allies?
That is nowhere near what is happening here. We have a system of laws that is being broken. Nobody was calling for sabotage when those laws were followed. But people who use less aggressive methods to combat fascism, i.e. writing op-eds, speaking publicly against administration policies, leading protests, have started facing punishments. They are preventing the normal exercise of civilian power, so we have to escalate to sabotage or similar actions. That doesn’t make us like fascists because we are not the ones defying and breaking existing social norms and laws. This is a ridiculous argument.
The suggestion of sabbatoge was against large corporations that employ tens of thousands of people if not more. You can make arguments that good people should never accept jobs at these large companies that end up working against our interests, but sabbatoging a company’s ability to function will almost certainly end impacting a lot of employees as well, which I’d guess many of them aren’t even that different than us & in some cases even less privileged. You do you. If you think that your resistance is pure & that if given the ring of power that you or your group will throw it into the lake of fire, then commit to that. I personally have seen too many instances where the resistance, especially if coming from Democrats, is just another form of fascism.