It kinda sounds like you’re shaming people simply for spending their money on entertainment, food or better living conditions. That kind of take can come off like saying, “you’re poor, so you don’t deserve to enjoy anything.”
I get that there are alternatives like pirating, but that doesn’t really solve the bigger issue: we shouldn’t have to resort to that in the first place.
No, it’s not “all or nothing.” You people keep pretending that’s what I’m arguing for because you don’t want to acknowledge your own contribution to the problem. The person I was replying was trying to argue ‘survival,’ and now here you are moving the goalposts to ‘wants.’
They keep conflating needs with wants, so whoever takes their wants away is immediately a bad person.
They don’t need more money. As soon as they get more, they’re going to spend more on more dumb shit while there are still starving children on the planet.
but that doesn’t really solve the bigger issue
It does if enough people do it.
we shouldn’t have to resort to that in the first place.
You make some good points and I see where you’re coming from, but I think that person used the term “survive” figuratively. Even so, when you say the world is not perfect you’re kind of oversimplifying the situation by making it seem like things are the way they are because of some unfortunate event no one can control, when in reality things are designed to be harder for people with less money, and I’ll try to use your own examples to show that.
Streaming: Remember when we only had Netflix and it had a full extensive catalog, no ads and was much more affordable? Then studios started splitting content just to make more profit, and now every year we pay more to get less content. Even basic plans with ads are going up. You mentioned pirating, but that’s not exactly easy or accessible for everyone, not to mention it’s a legal gray area (which is another discussion on its own).
Delivery: Sure, no one needs to order takeout, but even cooking at home is getting expensive, especially if you want to eat healthy. If you’re trying to save money you basically have to buy stuff loaded with sugar and fat or use shit ingredients, it’s like they’re trying to slowly kill us.
Living: let’s not pretend there’s not a housing crisis going on for a while, where people with money are buying up everything just to rent it back out to other people with money. Meanwhile everyone else is getting pushed to unsafe areas with poor living conditions.
(Also, just saying, that whole “fuck you” attitude of yours doesn’t really help with anything.)
Because have fun doing anything about it while scrambling to survive
Oh fuck off with this ‘survive’ nonsense.
Literally every bitch I know in America complaining about “not having enough money” spends it like a goddamn idiot.
Doordash every day. Subscriptions out the wah-zoo for things they can be getting for free.
You’d better believe most of them are going to be buying a switch 2 instead of emulating.
Oh, and the thought of moving somewhere cheaper? Forget about it. It’s “not good enough” for them.
No, they get no sympathy from me. They all deserve what’s coming to them and I hope it hits hard.
It kinda sounds like you’re shaming people simply for spending their money on entertainment, food or better living conditions. That kind of take can come off like saying, “you’re poor, so you don’t deserve to enjoy anything.”
I get that there are alternatives like pirating, but that doesn’t really solve the bigger issue: we shouldn’t have to resort to that in the first place.
No, it’s not “all or nothing.” You people keep pretending that’s what I’m arguing for because you don’t want to acknowledge your own contribution to the problem. The person I was replying was trying to argue ‘survival,’ and now here you are moving the goalposts to ‘wants.’
They keep conflating needs with wants, so whoever takes their wants away is immediately a bad person.
They don’t need more money. As soon as they get more, they’re going to spend more on more dumb shit while there are still starving children on the planet.
It does if enough people do it.
Correct, but we don’t live in a perfect world.
You make some good points and I see where you’re coming from, but I think that person used the term “survive” figuratively. Even so, when you say the world is not perfect you’re kind of oversimplifying the situation by making it seem like things are the way they are because of some unfortunate event no one can control, when in reality things are designed to be harder for people with less money, and I’ll try to use your own examples to show that.
Streaming: Remember when we only had Netflix and it had a full extensive catalog, no ads and was much more affordable? Then studios started splitting content just to make more profit, and now every year we pay more to get less content. Even basic plans with ads are going up. You mentioned pirating, but that’s not exactly easy or accessible for everyone, not to mention it’s a legal gray area (which is another discussion on its own).
Delivery: Sure, no one needs to order takeout, but even cooking at home is getting expensive, especially if you want to eat healthy. If you’re trying to save money you basically have to buy stuff loaded with sugar and fat or use shit ingredients, it’s like they’re trying to slowly kill us.
Living: let’s not pretend there’s not a housing crisis going on for a while, where people with money are buying up everything just to rent it back out to other people with money. Meanwhile everyone else is getting pushed to unsafe areas with poor living conditions.
(Also, just saying, that whole “fuck you” attitude of yours doesn’t really help with anything.)
Why are you surrounded by so many shitty people?
Consumerism.
I’m also in a capitalist hellscape, and I don’t see this same issue with people I know.
Why is your subset different?
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