• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Russia refusing to import our bleached chicken during Obama was a big falling out point with them. And they blocked the US adoption industry from trafficking Russian kids.

    Big Ag has a lot of power here. They will be petty and make this hurt for the EU.

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      9 days ago

      We didn’t stop buying your chicken now, we weren’t buying them in the first place.

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      9 days ago

      Big Ag, sponsored subsidised by the US government.

      Take a hike. The US has lost all its trust and trading power with trump’s tariff games.
      Things tariffed, things exempt, not exempt but not tariffed, U-turn on tariffs.
      The uncertainty isn’t bringing manufacturing back to the US. Especially if the US is tariffing raw materiels.
      And it isn’t going to force the EU to buy worse products than they can grow locally.
      I buy milk from a farm that’s 70 miles away. It’s a bit more expensive, but holy hell does it taste better than the (already fairly decent) supermarket milk.

      I cannot imagine a world where I have to refrigerate eggs. Sitting in the fridge, soaking up the random flavours of leftovers. That’s weird as fuck, man.

      “Big Ag” has power in the US. The US has pissed away their power failing to strong arm dozens of countries. And they’ve deported/interned (or are working on departing and interning) their labour farm workforce.
      Eggs are expensive in the US? Have fun with the next 6 months.

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        9 days ago

        That’s some very optimistic and tough talk, that seems to ignore the US military power and their willingness to use it for petty retaliation.

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          8 days ago

          Oh yeh. US the bully. Meat is absolutely the issue of the future. Not electricity, not communications, not water. Fucking chlorine washed chicken and hormone injected beef. Nobody else can grow that.

          Let the US deploy their McDonalds & forward bases as a military operation against - what was previously - an ally that provided goods, goods and knowledge sharing.

          The US has military might, but they have like 6 months to actually use it. The EU isn’t sleeping, Canada isn’t sleeping, the world is not sleeping.
          After 6 months, the allies they would be invading are no longer relying on “US off-switch” military assets. It will be some fucking washed-out russian “special operation” type failure, where the US either has to commit to genocide or get kicked back home.
          And anyone they use their military might on - who has previously been an ally and trade partner - would be instantly backed up by the rest of the western world.
          Because the US has turned from ally to hostile. Everyone is now preparing for it.

          My comment isn’t tough talk.
          The US is tough talking. And have complete fucked it up. They have slapped on tariffs then undone tariffs, then slapped on tariffs, then exempted shit, then saying the exemptions are just a different type or tariffs.
          They have fucking rang the bell of trade power until it’s meaningless and nobody fucking cares.
          The US trade talks are bullshit.
          Other countries can just stonewall until it’s time for the toddlers afternoon nap. Look at China, they aren’t relenting. The EU isn’t relenting. Canada isn’t relenting. Who is the US winning against? Penguins on an uninhabited island?!
          Oooh, we fold to the big bad tariffs. Next week, the guy in charge executive-orders some new bullshit against us.
          Why not just retaliate, and still new bullshit against us the following week anyway?
          It’s idiocy to capitulate to the tariffs.

          The US won’t bomb the EU over shitty meat and trade deals.
          The US military might is - essentially - meaningless.

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            8 days ago

            Military power works in many ways besides direct military action. The US essentially controls most major trade routes on earth. Would take Europe at least a decade to be able to build enough to push back.