• floo@retrolemmy.com
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    2 days ago

    I never said that. But it does show how this black-and-white all the nothing approach makes no sense.

    macOS is free because it’s free.

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      I have a MacBook Pro 15” 2018. I paid around $3K for it new. What is the cost for me to update to macOS 26 Tahoe or the one that comes after it?

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        I’m running Sonoma on a 2016 MacBook Pro. didn’t cost me anything because macOS is free.

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              23 hours ago

              It was sort of a trick question. To upgrade to Sequoia you need to buy a new Mac because the 2016 MacBook Pro doesn’t support it. The Mac is a license dongle to use MacOS until you’re required to buy a new dongle.

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                22 hours ago

                All operating system systems have hardware requirements. Just because you need to upgrade your system in order to get the latest operating system, doesn’t make the operating system any less free.

                You are manufacturing connections that aren’t there in assigning meaning whether there isn’t any just cause you refuse to admit the fact that macOS is free. I guess you just hate Apple that much, but I try not to get so emotionally involved

                Repeating the same absurd argument over and over doesn’t make it any more true.

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                  Geez man we have 5 MacBooks, 5 iPhones, 3 Apple TVs, a few iPads and watches. Even a couple iPods still. Not a hater. But Apple makes their money off selling hardware, not the OS. That doesn’t make the OS “free”, because keeping old hardware updated conflicts with their business model. If you buy a Mac you get 6 years out of it and then it becomes unsupported. What everyone else is telling you is that MacOS isn’t free, it’s prepaid, as part of the hardware purchase. Hope that helps.

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                    5 hours ago

                    Oh my God, let it go.

                    The operating system is free. Your decision to buy other stuff has nothing to do with the cost of macOS.

                    I’m sorry you simply can’t understand this. Sadly, you clearly can’t let this go, so I’m just gonna block you.

                    macOS is free. Get over it.

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        2 days ago

        And in my original comment, I said they hadn’t charged for it in about 15 years. And it’s been almost exactly 15 years.

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          Just because they stopped selling it doesn’t mean it’s free. The only legal way to aquire MacOS is to buy an Apple product, or somehow get an upgrade from one of those old paid versions (which since this happens through the App Store now, you still need an Apple product).

          Windows is also not free even though you can download the iso. There’s license terms

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            It’s free because it’s free, not because you can’t seem to wrap your head around that fact. Or whatever pretzel branded maneuvering you’re trying to do to validate your position

            macOS is free. There’s really no way you can twist that to be untrue. Not without making stuff up.

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          Sure, and if you got modern hardware with Windows 7 on it in 2009 then you had up-to-date free Windows since 16 years.