• fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Seriously. Why do people genuinely think this is a good idea? Colonialism and imperialism is bad.

    People should have learned after the US’s faults, and overreliance of it due to being a world power; but people just want to do it again???

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      2 months ago

      Yes and no. Countries like Russia and China are always going to exist. That means places like the Philippines, Taiwan, Ukraine, and Georgia are always going to need a strong ally if they don’t want to be invaded. There are a lot of countries that are going to be very worried now that America has turned heel (Especially Taiwan). Europe has mostly grown out of the need for constant expansion, so having them take on the role of world police wouldn’t be the worst thing to happen.

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        2 months ago

        Uh… How exactly is China historically expansionist? Isn’t Europe much, much worse by any metric at basically any point of history you choose?

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          2 months ago

          Annexation of Tibet (1950-1951)

          Invasion of Paracel Islands (1974)

          Southern Mongolia Annexation (1947-1949)

          Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands Dispute: China claims the Senkaku Islands (Diaoyu Islands), which are currently controlled by Japan but also claimed by Taiwan.

          PROC claims Taiwan as a province, but Taiwan operates as a de facto independent country.

          South China Sea (Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia), PROC claims nearly the entire South China Sea under its “Nine-Dash Line”, leading to conflicts with Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, and others.

          India - China claims Arunachal Pradesh as “South Tibet.”

          But it’s important to point out that “China” isn’t a country, rather a region. The country people generally refer to when they say “China” is the PROC. If you go back 1000 years there was no “China” country, there was the Ming Empire in the China region. I understand this perspective bothers people, but consider this, if you need to reduce countries to regions then you’re going to be bothered for the rest of your life.

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            2 months ago

            Annexation of Tibet (1950-1951)

            Southern Mongolia Annexation (1947-1949)

            Civil-war era. Calling the liberation of Tibet expansionism is wild.

            The rest are basically border conflicts which literally every country in the old continent have.

            If you go back 1000 years there was no “China” country, there was the Ming Empire in the China region

            You’d be hard-pressed to find a big country with such preservation of language, traditions, culture, architecture and artistic styles, etc. the way China does, idk what’s your point